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Old 17th April 2005, 11:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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SPAM from Poker Rooms

Hey all,

After submitting a support ticket I was pointed this way. I've been gtting lots of traffic on one of my domains coming from spam poker room sites. There is always 2/3 referrals and then it's gone. they always appear (when you can find one working) to be 'top sites lists' that never actually list my domain in question. Another thing I noticed is that they are always from sub-domains (always=99.9% of the time)

Has anybody experienced this and do you guys know of a way of stopping them?

Thanks in advance, hope it gets resolved somehow.
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Old 17th April 2005, 11:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I've had a few sites like this - got any domains? I'd be interested in knowing if they're the same... though mine aren't poker rooms but the basis sounds similar.

I used .htaccess to block them from some advice I got previously... but not sure whether it really is working yet or not. I too would be interested in ways to block.
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Old 18th April 2005, 12:31 AM   #3 (permalink)
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You can also block by IP address in spam assassin settings.

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Old 18th April 2005, 12:33 AM   #4 (permalink)
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For sites visiting you?
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Old 18th April 2005, 12:35 AM   #5 (permalink)
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No, for spam mail from ip addresses and not just domains.

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Old 18th April 2005, 12:41 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Hmm, this romulan ale... as I understood it - I thought he was saying that he was having lots of people visit his site from spam poker sites. Not email?
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Old 18th April 2005, 11:15 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Agh, okay, misunderstood - thought we were talking about receiving spam from Poker Sites. But the IP blocker via .htaccess would prevent them from visiting and grabbing e-mail addresses, or use Javascript for e-mail addresses. Perhaps the latter would be best, as .htaccess will only block them revisiting.

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Old 18th April 2005, 11:17 AM   #8 (permalink)
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:P Yeah. I use javascript to hide email addresses (I presume that's what you meant?) - do you know the code in htaccess to block by IP?
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Old 18th April 2005, 11:32 AM   #9 (permalink)
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This should work:

order allow,deny
deny from 123.45.6.7
deny from 12.34.5.
allow from all

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Old 18th April 2005, 06:20 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Hi,

I have loads of emails and also attacking my website forms. Heres some typical emails:
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This is an enquiry e-mail from free poker (webmaster@soundandmossl.com)
http://free-poker.soundandmossl.com
The super path to begin to get true real money is come onto free poker NOW!
free poker the really best rest time thousands-player poker, live, whole day without rest,
whole week without time-out! free poker is very fast method to successful and pleasure. Hundreds fans
communicate to free poker constantly. http://free-poker.soundandmossl.com
http://free-poker.soundandmossl.com
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From: online poker
Date: 04/18/05 12:49:48
To: web@familyhistory.uk.com
Subject: Family History UK Enquiry


This is an enquiry e-mail from online poker (webmaster@1-texasholdem.us)
online poker,texas holdem,party poker,wsop,poker,poker chips,holdem
poker,poker,poker game,poker chips,strip poker,online poker,texas
holdem,texas hold em,video poker,poker table,party poker,world series of
poker,play poker,free poker,poker rules,free online poker,poker
network,clay poker chips,poker rooms,poker card game,poker hands,texas
holdem poker,world poker tour,free poker game,pacific poker,free texas

http://1-texasholdem.us
http://21texasholdem.us
http://alltexasholdem.us
http://texasholdem1.us
http://0-poker.us
http://000-poker.us
http://007-poker.us
http://1-888-pokermon.com
http://1-casino-poker.us
http://1-onlinepoker.us
http://1-poker-game.com
http://100millionpoker.us
http://100playpoker.us
http://100poker.us
http://123-poker.us
http://1232poker.us
http://13poker.us
http://1centpoker.us
http://1clickpoker.us
http://1dollarpoker.us
http://1freepoker.us
http://1onlinepoker.us
http://1st-in-poker.us
http://1st-place-poker.com
http://1st-poker.us
http://2-poker.us
http://a-poker-casino.com
http://poker-0.com
http://poker-party-a.com
http://poker-pro.us
http://texasholdem2.com

hold em,poker star,free strip poker,poker chip set,free texas
holdem,poker tournament,online poker game,texas hold em poker,holdem
poker,empire poker,poker supplies,texas hold em rules,internet
poker,poker set,texas holdem rules,paradise poker,online poker
rooms,poker table tops,poker chip trick,online texas hold em,free video
poker,poker strategy,custom poker chips,online texas holdem,poker tips,wsop
I have also visited the site that all this redirects http://www.empirepoker.com and have emailed corp@iglobalmedia.com their legal people. Still awaiting response!
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Old 18th April 2005, 07:12 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Well i'm getting visits from poker domains and it's from about 60 domains/subdomains each feeding me 2/3 hits. If i'm quick enough I can see the site and it's a top list or something. (thinking could be a competitior starting it off) but sometimes I visit the main domain and it say account banned bu then when you view source it's got loads of poker keywords and things still in the code so i'm sue it's a dodgy page to make you stop worrying.

I don't want to blick from IP yet as i don't know enough about it and i've done about 8 months work of SEO on the site and it's now paying off but these poker hits i'm sure are not helping me in Google who is currently filtering me out for my main 3/4 keywords.

If there is no way of stopping this i'm off to seek legal advice in a couple of weeks.

I've got a few posts on a few forums so i'll get back toy ou asap.
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Old 18th April 2005, 07:20 PM   #12 (permalink)
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So far from my urchin stats this month i've got these fuckers.

www.phuketabacus.com/poker-rooms.html
2host.gb.com/
caribbean-poker.gcminternational.org/
yahoo-poker.gst12.com/
www.phuketabacus.com/poker.html
sympatico.msn.ca/results.aspx
www.yourmorningshot.com/poker-rooms.html
winning-poker-hands.gcminternational.org/
poker-stars.osteriaportanova.com/
texasholdem.robertapesce.com/
internet-poker-game.gst12.com/
online-poker-games.robertapesce.com/
poker-room.gst12.com/
www.myfriendstephanie.net/poker-rooms.html
www.catalystmag.org/poker-games.html
www.catalystmag.org/empire-poker.html
www.webfinder.com/searchresult.asp
www.sml338.org/college-loan.html
world-series-poker.techlabmodels.com/
play-texas-hold-em-online.osteriaportanova.com/
www.sml338.org/debt-elimination.html
http://www.sml338.org/consolidation-...-low-rate.html
video-poker-games.gst12.com/
www.catalystmag.org/party-poker.html
texas-holdem-online.gst12.com/
www.buckhouston.com/texas-holdem.html
www.sml338.org/house-loan-interest-rate.html
www.sml338.org/chase-home-equity-loan.html
www.buckhouston.com/empire-poker.html
www.altavista.com/web/results
www.sml338.org/home-equity-loan-bankruptcy.html
party-poker.gst12.com/
wsop.transcendentalartscouncil.org/
poker-hands.quinteblogs.com/
on-line-poker.gst12.com/
www.newclassicalguitar.com/texas-hold-em.html
online-party-poker.autotua.org/
play-texas-holdem-online.rgmrecords.com/
poker-game.gst12.com/
www.sml338.org/adjustable-rate-mortgage.html
www.sml338.org/advance-cash-loan-mexico-new.html
www.sml338.org/guaranteed-loans.html
play-free-poker.osteriaportanova.com/
http://www.sml338.org/advance-cash-d...ashington.html
online-poker-games.gst12.com/
hold-em-poker.kyfop.net/
free-online-texas-hold-em.iacsoft.com/
www.sml338.org/stated-income-mortgage-loans.html
www.yourmorningshot.com/texas-hold-em.html
www.qtw24.com/empire-poker.html
www.qtw24.com/poker.html
www.sml338.org/20-mortgage-refinance-year.html
www.sml338.org/fha-streamline-refinance.html
http://www.sml338.org/mortgage-refin...alifornia.html
www.phuketabacus.com/texas-holdem.html
www.phuketabacus.com/poker-games.html
www.sml338.org/jumbo-mortgages.html
www.sml338.org/education-loan.html
www.phuketabacus.com/party-poker.html
melodias.polimoviles.com/es/index.php
www.sml338.org/bridge-loan-work.html
www.sml338.org/payday-board-game.html
mamma65.mamma.com/Mamma

Anybody know what they gain from this shite?
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Old 18th April 2005, 07:36 PM   #13 (permalink)
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a broken neck if I go my hands on 'em

I have also found that their IP's are different - as I have tracked their IP to the specific host which (they say) they know nothing about! So blocking their Ip wont do much good!

Help!
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Old 18th April 2005, 08:35 PM   #14 (permalink)
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What they are doing is trawling your site for e-mail addresses that they can use to spam about their sites. Expect it to start - SOON!

I haven't checked Urchin Stats yet, but have already received my first piece of 'Poker' spam.

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Old 18th April 2005, 11:06 PM   #15 (permalink)
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They're not crawling for email addresses they are filling you referer logs in order to make you want to go and view their sites. Half of my traffic is referrer spam on some sites. There's really very little you can do about it.
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Well, if that is what it is all about - then it is the most pointless sort of spamming I have ever heard of. Not that there's much point to any of it.

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Old 19th April 2005, 12:53 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Indeed. :P They must be crawling for email addresses - either that or they're looking for forms they can fill in that'll let them post links back to their site.
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Old 19th April 2005, 12:52 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Hi,

Could be wrong but I thought this was just referrer spam in the hope your stats are available online and possibly crawled by the se's in order to gain the link popularity? In most stat packages it is the referrer field that gets turned into links whereas the browser field etc don't.

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Old 19th April 2005, 06:39 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Well, if that is what it is all about - then it is the most pointless sort of spamming I have ever heard of.
Not that pointless. We've noticed them and are talking about them. Some have likely even visited their sites. Mission accomplished. But the bastards are giving online poker sites a bad name!

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Old 19th April 2005, 06:41 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I'd say it's not mission accomplished - we're all talking about blocking them - not visiting them.
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